Legislature(2015 - 2016)BARNES 124

04/08/2016 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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01:22:54 PM Start
01:23:45 PM Confirmation(s): Board of Fisheries
01:57:52 PM SB204|| HB371
02:19:45 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 371 KENNY & PATTI BARBER SHOOTING RANGE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ SB 204 KENNY & PATTI BARBER SHOOTING RANGE TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 204 Out of Committee
<Companion Bill to HB 371>
+ Confirmation Hearing: TELECONFERENCED
Board of Fisheries
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
           SB 204-KENNY & PATTI BARBER SHOOTING RANGE                                                                       
           HB 371-KENNY & PATTI BARBER SHOOTING RANGE                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:57:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TALERICO  announced that  the next  order of  business is                                                              
SENATE BILL NO.  204, "An Act naming a shooting range  in the Knik                                                              
River  Public  Use  Area  the  Kenny  and  Patti  Barber  Shooting                                                              
Range," and  HOUSE BILL NO. 371,  "An Act naming a  shooting range                                                              
in  the Knik  River Public  Use Area  the Kenny  and Patti  Barber                                                              
Shooting Range."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:58:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL   GEORGE,  Staff,   Senator  Bill   Stoltz,  Alaska   State                                                              
Legislature,  addressed  the committee  on  behalf  of the  Senate                                                              
State Affairs Standing  Committee, sponsor of SB 204  and of which                                                              
Senator  Stoltz  is  the  chair.   He  said  Representative  Cathy                                                              
Tilton would discuss the companion bill, HB 371.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CATHY  TILTON, Alaska State  Legislature, addressed                                                              
the  committee  on behalf  of  the  House Community  and  Regional                                                              
Affairs Standing  Committee, sponsor  of HB 371  and of  which she                                                              
is the chair.   She presented a  video clip of the  shooting range                                                              
proposed to  be named the Kenny  and Patti Barber  Shooting Range.                                                              
[The video clip played from 1:59:38 to 2:01:54.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:01:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TILTON explained  that the  Knik River Public  Use                                                              
Area  is   the  246,000  acre   multiple  use  recreational   area                                                              
established by House  Bill 307, passed in 2006.   There was public                                                              
outcry to  try to  clean up that  area and  a management  plan was                                                              
adopted  that restricted  shooting  in some  areas  and created  a                                                              
shooting  range.    The  shooting   range  was  created  with  the                                                              
assistance   of  Dan   Sullivan,   former   commissioner  of   the                                                              
Department of  Natural Resources  (DNR), the Office  of Management                                                              
&  Budget (OMB),  and the  legislature,  with the  backing of  the                                                              
National Rifle  Association (NRA)  and funds committed  from other                                                              
groups.  The  intent is for a  clean and safe place  for people to                                                              
go,  with a  state-of-the-art  facility in  one  of the  beautiful                                                              
areas  of Alaska.   Turning  to SB  204, she  explained it  honors                                                              
Kenny   and  Patti   Barber,   fairly  ordinary   and   unassuming                                                              
individuals,  who  are described  by  DNR Deputy  Commissioner  Ed                                                              
Fogels as "extraordinary  stewards" of the land.   Kenny and Patti                                                              
Barber  spent  decades   trying  to  put  this   together  through                                                              
community  involvement and  volunteering.   They  are  one of  the                                                              
most dedicated husband  and wife teams in Alaska when  it comes to                                                              
observing  the traditions  of hunting  and fishing,  with both  of                                                              
them involved  in the  Matanuska Valley  Sportsmen and  the Alaska                                                              
Outdoor  Council.   They  played  a central  role  in forming  the                                                              
Alaska  Outdoor  Access  Alliance, spearheading  the  creation  of                                                              
this   area   and   shaping  policy   of   the   shooting   range.                                                              
Representative Tilton  pointed out that it is named  the Kenny and                                                              
Patti Barber  Shooting Range  because it  is alphabetical.   There                                                              
have been  6,699 visitors and the  rules are posted at  the range,                                                              
but no  signs will  be replaced  until they are  worn out  so that                                                              
funds can  go straight  into the shooting  range.  Therefore,  she                                                              
pointed  out,  the sign  to  honor  Kenny  and Patti  Barber  will                                                              
probably not exist during their lifetime.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT recalled  from the  video that there  are                                                              
garbage cans.   He asked whether there are restroom  facilities or                                                              
porta-potties.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HEATH HILYARD,  Staff, Representative  Cathy Tilton,  Alaska State                                                              
Legislature, confirmed there are blue porta-potties.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT noted he  is unsure whether  construction                                                              
is  complete  and  how  much  further  the  plans  will  take  the                                                              
shooting range.   He observed that the rules do  not allow shotgun                                                              
shot and so assumed there are no clay pigeons or birds to shoot.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GEORGE  responded that this  is a slightly different  shooting                                                              
range than what  most folks are familiar with, such  as the Rabbit                                                              
Creek  Shooting Range  in  Anchorage where  younger  folks can  be                                                              
taught to shoot.   The facility discussed within SB  204 is run by                                                              
the Department  of Natural  Resources, not  the Alaska  Department                                                              
of Fish &  Game.  The facility  does not have staff  from DNR, but                                                              
is assisted by the  land manager from DNR and the  facility is run                                                              
by volunteers.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HERRON   referred  to   Representative   Tilton's                                                              
comment  regarding the  order of  names and  asked whether  people                                                              
would prefer it be Patti and Kenny Barber.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TILTON  replied that the  order of Kenny  and Patti                                                              
Barber is  fine, and  that she  was just  pointing out  that Patti                                                              
volunteers a  lot of her time  and sometimes the woman  behind the                                                              
man is the one who backs him up.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT offered to make a friendly amendment.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TILTON shook her head no.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TALERICO opened public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:12:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN STURGEON  advised he  knows Kenny and  Patti Barber  well and                                                              
knows  them to  be tireless  workers in  supporting public  access                                                              
and especially in  trying to establish a shooting range.   He said                                                              
he strongly supports SB 204.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROD  ARNO,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Outdoor  Council  (AOC),                                                              
offered his  organization's support and  said the AOC  is "tickled                                                              
to death" to  have the name change  for the shooting range.   This                                                              
is a unique area,  he said, because the Knik River  is at the edge                                                              
of urban  sprawl.  The  Barbers live close  to this area  and have                                                              
worked to  make this a  public use area.   Not only did  they work                                                              
to create  the legislation to establish  the public use  area, but                                                              
they  continued   implementing  what   was  agreed  upon   in  the                                                              
legislation that  established it.   Alaska is fortunate to  have a                                                              
couple of  folks interested in  preserving outdoor  traditions and                                                              
willing to take a stand to make it safer, he said.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS  testified in support  of SB 204  and noted he  is part                                                              
of the volunteer  group with Ken  and Patti Barber.   He described                                                              
them as  rock stars  and stewards  of the area  and said  they put                                                              
this together and  they work tirelessly every day  cleaning it up.                                                              
He  remarked  that  during  the  last two  times  he  was  at  the                                                              
shooting range  there were  Dall sheep on  the mountains  that did                                                              
not  twitch once  from the  shooting.   Ken and  Patti Barber  are                                                              
humble and  the quiet silent  type, he  said, but are  getting the                                                              
job done  where everyone else  would be making  noise.    He added                                                              
that according  to DNR, this  winter there  was an average  of 400                                                              
vehicles driving to  the range, which equates to  400 shooters per                                                              
week this winter alone.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TALERICO  closed public  testimony after ascertaining  no                                                              
one else wished to testify.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  stated he has reviewed the  pictures and it                                                              
is  one of  the nicest  outdoor  shooting ranges  he  has seen  in                                                              
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  TALERICO added  that  Kenny and  Patti  Barber are  well                                                              
known  beyond   their  community  and   are  well  known   in  his                                                              
community.   They have  been involved in  more than  this shooting                                                              
range  over the years,  he noted,  such as  cleanup efforts  along                                                              
roadways and highways  for which they've spent a lot  of their own                                                              
time and money.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:18:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  NAGEAK moved  to report  SB  204 out  of committee  with                                                              
individual  recommendations  and  the accompanying  fiscal  notes.                                                              
There  being no  objection,  SB 204  was moved  out  of the  House                                                              
Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[HB 371 was held over.]